Communique from MFAA industry roundtable

22 representatives of broker groups, mortgage managers and lenders (bank and non bank) met on April 28, 2009, under the auspices of the MFAA, to discuss industry issues, including lender service levels, broker submission quality and competition.  The robust discussion was professionally moderated by Peter Switzer.

This meeting was the first of its type and the MFAA is proud to use its leadership role to bring the industry together and facilitate this unique event in which all who participated represented the vast majority of MFAA’s 13200 membership.

The meeting acknowledged that many of the current concerns of the mortgage and finance industry had resulted from the unique coincidence of the following circumstances:

  • First Home Owners Boost
  • Low interest rates
  • Material decrease in lenders operating in the market (it was noted that 92% of home loans were currently being transacted by five lenders)

It was acknowledged that while these circumstances are seen as ‘short term issues’ they had significantly impacted on lenders’ ability to maintain service levels, which was exacerbated by an increase in their need to re-work large percentages of loan submissions, especially FHOB loans.

Lenders acknowledged that the above circumstances had put enormous pressure on their service levels but they all had increased their processing resources massively to cope with the extra demand.

The meeting agreed that lenders and brokers, as partners in the loan distribution chain, would take the following steps to improve service to borrowers:

  • Lenders will continue to do all possible to ensure demand levels are being met by upgraded resources in loan processing and that there is comparability in service levels between broker and proprietary channels
  • Lenders will provide clear communications as to the service levels and provide updates where those levels change
  • While it was recognised in the current circumstances there may be the need for lenders to amend credit policies quickly, lenders agreed they would provide as much notice as possible of such changes
  • Lenders will provide broker groups with detailed data as to re-work and error rates
  • Broker groups will institute training to remedy re-work issues and error rates
  • Broker groups will ensure brokers are provided with adequate information (based on data from lenders) to ensure borrowers are not given unrealistic expectations about loan approvals

It was agreed:

  • lender and broker representatives have a mutual interest in ensuring high quality service to their customers, and are aware of the need to protect their respective brands;
  • lender and broker representatives understand and commit to mutual support of each other to this end;

The meeting considered the initiative by the Federal Government on deposit guarantees for ADIs, and while recognising the importance of such in the current economic circumstances, the meeting emphasised the need for the Federal Government to take all possible steps to continue to encourage and promote greater competition in the mortgage and finance industry in the best interests of Australian consumers.

The meeting resolved that the Roundtable had been extremely useful and that similar Roundtables should be convened utilising MFAA’s unique broker and intermediary representation and access through its membership to all significant bank and non bank lenders.

It was agreed a further meeting would be convened in 3 months to review the impact of the understandings reached today.

PHIL NAYLOR
MFAA

14 Comments

Ted May 1, 2009

It would have been interesting to find out from the major banks just what percentages of business is being directed via their branches and brokers - particularly after they have all shifted the goal posts.
As another aside, I have not had a visit from a BDM from the major banks in the last 6 months.

Steve Mc May 1, 2009

The summit was a farce given that for weeks the CBA has been offering a 60 minute home loan approval (not just conditional), but for branches & direct clients only. It’s still on their website. Meanwhile brokers wait up to 3 weeks. Why wasn’t the discussion “robust” enough to raise such specific issues?

Bill May 1, 2009

This is just a summary highlight of issues. While the meeting seemed like a good first step, if the MFAA really want to help in the long term, there are two topics that were not mentioned that some mortgage brokers would like some feedback on:
1. Lenders withholding or pulling back certain product offerings via the Broker channel. The two examples that come to my mind was BankWest last year pulling the Rate Saver product and this year RAMS pulling the 100% LVR option from the Broker channel. We need representation that is going to work out an agreement with ALL lenders that doesn’t allow these circumstances to happen.
2. Broker Commissions and Clawbacks - a hot topic for sure, but no one seems to be representing the broker community strongly enough on these issues. We need a strong voice representing us here. We have had our pay slashed and in cases with clawbacks, not paid at all for the same work, or given the new regulations coming into effect, more work that we have to do.

These are from economic terms, supple and demand issues, but we need better representation as well.

Nyo May 1, 2009

The voting of 69% no confidence in the conference is a serious enditement on the MFAA.

barry parker May 1, 2009

Blah Blah Blah!!!. Sounds like a talk fest with noting new to offer> Much like Rudds conference just after comming to power, NOTHING OF ANY CONSEQUENCE!!

Derek May 1, 2009

Talk is cheap - action costs money.
The lenders don’t have to go to a forum to find out what the brokers feel - all they need do is talk to their own BDM’s who cop the flack from the brokers. Or maybe the BDM’s stay away because they can’t handle the flack. And why were brokers not allowed at the forum - only aggregators. Why don’t the banks want to find out the truth from the horses mouth?

Keith Musgrave May 1, 2009

Am I the only one in Australia who sees that the current financial crisis is one very good opportunity for the major players (4 banks) in the Australian banking and finance industry to bring as much pressure on mortgage brokers, financial planners and smaller lenders (credit unions, building societies etc) as they possibly can, to increase their profit margins, cripple their competitors, and remove power from anybody who was previously in a position to wield it.
With 92% of Australias lending going to the 4 major banks in Australia they are in a position to make decisions under the guise of “trying to remain viable in these dire times” to strangle their competition. Slowely but surely, the major banks will continue to use this situation to their advantage.
In the past, the mortgage broker chanels provided an alternative for clients to source a home loan that offered better benefits and rates than were being offered by the major banks.
The banks did not want that to change for obvious reasons.
20-25 years ago, a customers were not allowed to make repayments other than monthly.
The rest is history.
The major banks now see this as an opportunity to claw back a lot of lost ground.
And, they seem to be supported to a fair degree by the Federal Government, who have guaranteed their deposits and provided other support to them.
To think that the Federal Reserve Bank felt that the Australian economy needed a further boost and so reduced official interest rates only to have the 4 mojor banks say “thank you very much, in order for us to remain strong, we are going to pocket that decrease, and bad luck to the Australian economy and its people”. If I were the Federal Reserve Bank board, I would be “fuming, ropeable and incensed” that they would just put it in their pocket instead of it going to the people for which it was intended. Remember, for every $1,000,000 on loan, the bank just pocketed $2,500. How much money is currently on loan for housing and business in Australia.
I may be misguided or mislead, but I am led to believe that many of Australia’s smaller lenders, credit unions, building societies etc, are having a great deal of trouble being able to borrow money to lend to their customers.
For as long as there is little competition within the lending markets, the major banks will continue to increase the pressure on their competition.
That means that mortgage brokers and financial planners and all players on the fringes of this industry will continue to be squeezed out.
But, if you believe that the lenders representatives who attend these round tables are there for anything other than “show” then I think you are wrong.
If the MFAA want to show support for their broker members, then they should be at the absolute forefront of the fight to get our politicians to promote competition in the industry by assisting the smaller lenders get access to funds, it is these lenders who rely greatly on the broker chanels for a portion of their business.
Someone wrote earlier that they hadn’t seen a BDM for 6 months, the only BDM’s that I HAVE seen have been from the 4 majors. And I know why I haven’t seen the BDM’s from any other lender, they haven’t got any money to lend.
The only strategy that the MFAA should have at this point is to show the Federal Government that competition is what is needed. The rest is purely lip service, and if you think that those bank rep’s who sat down with the MFAA the other day are going to a damn thing about your requests, have another think. The file notes would have been in the first bin they came to. They would have gone back to their offices and said “how else can we tighten the noose?”
I could go on!!!
Have a good weekend everyone
Regards
Keith

BBB May 1, 2009

Keith Musgrove has it completley right ,
\Iin addition the MFAA are now in real trouble, acceoting sponsorship from the big 4 who are crippling the industry,they must cease this immediatley and begin to serve their BROKER menbers who make up the MAJORITY of their membership or they will not have an MFAA national conference must be cancelled and small one day State conferences with NO lender support or sponsorship must commence in 2010> With incomes slashed brokers cannot afford 3 days away fron their business and $1500 to 3,000 in costs .
BROKERS wake up DO NOT give a deal to the big four AT ALL , support the non bank lenders FIRST .
If you do not WE WILL NOT be here, the big 4 will have won and the consumer will be the real loser . Brokers stop being lazy , get off your BU!S and start submitting deals to the lenders who REALLY want to deal with you — they are out there.

BBB May 2, 2009

“BROKERS wake up DO NOT give a deal to the big four AT ALL , support the non bank lenders FIRST ”

It is the Brokers’ fault that causing major grievance to the customer through non banker lender…. because of the high commision generated.
WAKE UP….Go for Bank lender!!!

Mac May 4, 2009

Onya Keith. You are spot on.
Brokers must use the Big 4 Banks as a last resort.
We must suppport the Non Bank lenders that support Brokers
Thats being said
The MFAA is a complete waste of time and your money. join one of the other two. At least they are run by brokers and not by banks

Keith Musgrave May 5, 2009

Hi Guys,
I hope everybody had a great weekend.
One major difficulty that we brokers have is that the major banks are competetive because they have the credit rating and purchasing power to get the cheaper money.
The smaller lenders are not able to get access to funds as cheap as the big 4, therefore they can’t be competetive. Not to mention the fact that they also find it very difficult to actually borrow any money for residential lending.
It is very interesting that as soon as a lender brings out a “special rate” they are swamped by the broker chanels and within 2 months their service levels are shot. It just goes to show you/clients/politicians that the brokers are “doing the right thing” by their clients.

Therefore, I call on the MFAA and other industry bodies to bring pressure on the Federal Government to make funds available to the smaller lenders.
I also support a previous responder’s view that the MFAA should not have major lenders as “main sponsors”. You are sleeping with the enemy.
Our industry is completely reliant on the lenders, however, our industry bodies should be sponsored by the various aggregators and lenders who only source their business through the broker channels. They are the ones who support competition within the industry.
I also support 100% the industry bodies such as the MFAA, and call on them to start supporting their broker members. They are not helping us at this point with “round table discussions” with the major lenders over turnaround times. They are petty issues that the lenders are currently using to turn our clients against the brokers. It takes a broker 5-10 working days to get a “conditional approval”. It takes 24-48 hours through a branch. Coincidence??? I don’t think so.
The industry bodies must be spending this time lobbying to the Federal & State policy makers that the broker chanels ARE HONORABLE & RESPECTABLE professionals who add VALUE & SERVICE to their clients and provide a very valuable alternative to the branch networks.
They must also be promoting to the same people that without competetion, the major lenders will simply buy their competetion.
ANZ have complained last week about their diminishing profit, in the same article, they are talking about aquisitions. Westpac bought RAMS, CBA bought Bankwest, Westpac & St George merge. Me thinks that the competetion is dwindling boys & girls, about time our industry bodies tried to stop the rot.
I would also hazard a guess that the industry bodies might get a lot more member support if they started to show that they are an industry player. When the banks come to dinner to talk about turaround times, you haven’t got the bull by the horns.
I hope this makes sense.
Regards
Keith

Keth for PM May 5, 2009

I propose an alternative roundtable be convened by a combination of Brokers and Independent Aggregators(No bank ownership).
Items for discussion would be:
* Succeeding in Broking without the Major Banks
* Sustainable Commissions and Remuneration Structuring
* Aggregation as it was Intended to be- Independent
* Keth Musgrave for PM

MIC May 6, 2009

It is happening in the USA and the UK and now here. 40% of brokers in the UK did not renew their FSA permissions this year.

Keith Musgrave May 6, 2009

Hi Guys,
I can assure everybody that I won’t be running for PM.

However, I would encourage all mortgage & finance brokers to write to their supporting bodies (MFAA & FBAA) and call on them to instigate a “round table” discussion with “interested parties” (aggregators, lenders who get most of their business from the broker chanels, financiers and those parties interested in the longevity of the broker networks) and devise a united strategy to lobby all levels of government and governing bodies (ASIC, ACCC etc) to promote competition within the industry.
Without competition between the lending providers, our service will cease to be of benefit to the public and our clients. They will be heading back to the banks to get their home loans as there won’t be an alternative. And I am sure many of you will remember what choices the banks offered to borrowers 20 years ago!!! (You couldn’t even pay your loan repayments weekly)
I fully support the notion of well qualified professionals only within the industry to provide mortgage broking services. It is imperative for public perception that mortgage brokers are professionaly qualified.
It is also imperative that brokers provide a “client focused” service by offering competetive products & services that ARE competetive and not commission driven.
I would also promote to our member bodies that they lobby for continued training within the industry.
I would also call on the industry as a whole to fund an “awareness and educational” advertising campaign in the national media to make the public aware of the services and benefits provided by mortgage brokers. To educate the public about the benefits a mortgage broker can provide by way of lower interest rates and lower fees and more appropriate home loan products. Naturally there will be a significant cost for that, but I am sure that if their members were seeing more effort in promoting broker services, we wouldn’t mind paying a bit extra.
Without competition between the lenders, mortgage brokers are a dieing breed.
And don’t be misled by our major banks crying poor. If you want some good shares to buy, buy Australian bank shares. They are cutting dividends at present, that is only to fund future expansion strategies by acquisition of their competitors.
I hope this finds you well.
Regards
Keith

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